Spiritual Chat 32 - Original Version                              About Spiritual Chat 32
Title: "Learn How To Properly Say No To God", Date: November 2, 2002,
Chat Between: Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Smith

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Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. 

May God help us all.  My love you (anbu), my dearest brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

Text of Spiritual Chat 32 - continued:

(Note: this chat came to an abrupt end when Rumi's computer went down.  However,
it picks up the next day as follows)

6.  Learning To Properly Say "No" To God - to what God has given us that is less
          than the "Oneness of God and True Man", indicating to God that we don't want
          anything less than this from Him, allowing Him to continue pealing away all that
          separates Him from Him, allowing Him to fully and completely answer the
          Question that He asked of Himself in anathi, in the time before the beginningless
          beginning, the question, "Who am I? 

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim.  In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.  Al-salam 'alaykum, my dearest sister Rumi.  My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

Rumismith: Wa 'alaykum al-salam, Ya Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

We got cut off yesterday.  That was such a wonderful sharing.  Bawa has been explaining it to me in detail all day.  What a wonder.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

Rumismith:

Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. We didn't quit on you the other night. The computer crashed and we were unable to reconnect to the internet. We tried several times with Juno and AOL but without success.

Yes we too (saw it as a wonderful sharing).  And we too have been thinking about that sharing, (realizing that) it certainly wasn't concluded. We would like to hear Bawa's explanation. But we have also been looking forward to watching Emperor Wang Guhn at 8 pm.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

What Bawa said was the following. 

          "What you experienced was God asking you,

                    'Is this what you want?'".

And if it is, a life of Rumi as "separate from" God dreaming of oneness with God, then that is what you will get.  But if that is not what you want, then God will take it back, when you hand it back to Him, and open up something more, something closer to true Oneness with Him, within it, and then hand that to you, repeating this process over and over again until only He is there, not you and Him. 

But if you say, "No" to God, then you will have to continue experiencing the difficulties of a life of "separation and differences", with your brothers and sisters, in the dream of a life of "separation from" God, of "separation from" your brothers and sisters, and of "separation from" the Creation of God within you. 

This clarity has help this child a great deal.  What a wonder is this God of ours.  What a wonder is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him).

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

About watching "Emperor Wang Guhn".  Ask Bawa which to do at this moment in your life, chat with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen or watch TV.  The choice is always yours.

Rumismith:

That explanation resonates in the heart.  Al-hamdu lillah.

It was you who told us to watch Emperor Wang Guhn, you even suggested that we go down to Asma'il's house at midnight to watch it, and now you refer to it as watching TV, and what a choice to make?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

It wasn' t Louie who suggested it earlier, and it isn't Louie who didn't suggest it now.  You know that, my dearest loving sister Rumi.  Anyway, lets both go watch Emperor Wang Guhn. Ok.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

May the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all.  May God help us all.  My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

We just turned it on.  It is a re-run of the last show from the previous series.  That is really a good one. Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

Rumismith:

In sha 'a Allah (if God has willed). Our choice was really between Friday evening silent
Dhikr and watching "TV".

My love you Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we are so thankful to God for these so very helpful exchanges. We have to go up to the attic to watch Emperor Wang Guhn.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Ok. My love you (anbu).

[Note: the following wisdom points were not part of the original chat with our sister Rumi but are included now from my heart to your heart, from the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) to the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), the One Heart for all of us in this age, in this age of
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him)]

7.  The Du'a or Prayer That We Must All Say Upon Completing Our First
          Pilgrimage To Hajj - "Thank You God, but no thank You, what's next"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Here is a short story about what happened to Louie when he joined with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) to take his wife Crisi on pilgrimage to Mecca, which is where Louie learned about the proper way of saying "No" to God.

Muhaiyaddeen LB:

One day Crisi asked her husband Louie to take her to Mecca, to satisfy the traditional Islamic obligation of Hajj, of a pilgrimage to Mecca.  Louie immediately asked Bawa what to do, and Bawa said to Louie,

          "We will take her".

So Crisi and Louie and Bawa went to Mecca, along with 50 other brothers and sisters from the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA.

After going to Medina and then to Mecca, and completing all of the traditional obligations of Hajj, Louie was walking around the Kaba for the very last time, right before leaving Mecca and returning to America, and Louie asked Bawa what he should do next.

And Bawa said to Louie,

          "You must do Du'a or Prayer to God."

And Louie said to Bawa,

          "What should we say in our Du'a or Prayer to God?"

And Bawa said to Louie,

          "You must say to God,

                    'Thank You God, but no thank You.'"

And Louie said to Bawa,

          "We don't understand.  What does that Du'a or Prayer mean?"

And Bawa said to Louie,

          "Well, what did you see while you were here in Mecca? 
          Did you see God?"

And Louie said to Bawa,

          "No, we did not see God."

And Bawa said to Louie,

          "Well, did you at least see the Kingdom of God?"

And Louie said to Bawa,

          "No, we did not see the Kingdom of God either."

Then Bawa said to Louie,

          "Then what did you see?"

And Louie thought for a little while and then said to Bawa,

          "Well, we saw many beautiful buildings, and we saw many people walking
          around the Kaba, praying to God, and demonstrating their devotion and love for
          God.  That is what we saw."

And then Bawa said to Louie,

          "Do you ever want to see that again?"

And Louie again thought for a little while and then said to Bawa,

          "No, not particularly."

And then Bawa said to Louie,

          "Then you better tell God,

                    'Thank You God, but no thank You'".

          "And then you must say to God, with a very firm voice,

                    'Don't You ever bring me back to this place and show me this again.
                    If we are ever to come back here again, at least show us the Kingdom
                    of God.'"

Then Bawa reminded Louie about what Bawa had previously told His Children, that Bawa had never physically come to Mecca, but that He had come to Mecca three times.  The first time He saw what we all see when we go to Mecca.  The second time He saw the Kingdom of God.  And the third time He saw God.

As it is for Bawa, so it must be for His Children.  It is proper for His Children to physically go to Mecca once, but certainly not over and over again, as has become the practice of some at the Fellowship.  And having gone this one time, we must then say this final Du'a to God,

          "Thank You God, but no thank You.  What's next?"

And such was the trip to Mecca by Crisi, Louie, and Bawa.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

8.  Traveling To God Versus Traveling To Pittsburgh - there is a big difference, like
          praying to God in the state of being truly "Alone, Hungry, and Awake", which is
          the state of "Oneness with" God, is very, very different from praying to God in the
          state of "separation and differences" with our brothers and sister, in the state of
          being "separate from" God within us, of being "separate from" our brothers and
          sisters in the world that we see in our ignorance as existing"outside" of us, of
          being "separate from" the Creation of God within us, and of being "separate from"
          the life and teaching of God for our age, the life and teaching of Bawa
          Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), that God has
          personally and ever so lovingly placed within the heart of each one of us living in
          the world today, even before we came to this dunya or earth world, even before we
          came to God's School of Contrasts, to understand who we already are

When traveling to Pittsburgh we stay the same and everything around us changes, while when traveling to God everything around us stays the same and we change, we change as we move through everything, eventually becoming, as Bawa teaches us,

          "The Power within the Essence of Everything".

And in this way, moving from being the dream of "self existence", moving from the dream of a life of "separation and differences" that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, which is our current state, to being "One with" the sifat or form of everything within us, which is the Creation of God within us, which God has personally and ever so lovingly placed within each of us, which God created out of the Meem of
Muhammad (Sal.), which in maturity is the 18,000 universes within us, to being "One with" the sirr or secret or essence within everything, within the Creation of God within us, within the 18,000 universes within us, which in maturity is the House of Light, the House of Wisdom, the Palace of the Soul within us, which in maturity is Muhammad (Sal.) as the Qutb of Allah (Ral.) within us, as Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (may God be pleased with Him) within us.

To being "One with" the dhat or essence of God within us, within the Secret World of Allah within the 18,000 universes or dunya within us, within the sirr or essence of everything within us, which in maturity is Muhammad (Sal.) as the Nur Muhammad, as the 25th letter of man, as the Triple Flame of God within us, which is the seed of Iman, the seed of True Man within Adam (peace be upon Him) within us, which in maturity next joins with the Ruh or soul of man, the 26th letter of man, becoming the 27th letter of man when Muhammad (Sal.) goes on Mi'raj to meet and commune directly with God, and then becoming Insan Muhammad, the 28th letter of man, as the "Love Song" of Allah, having sung the re-established Qur'an to Allah, and then in maturity with
Muhammad (Sal.) as the full 28 letters of man becomes the form of the essence of the Qur'an, of the Suratal Fatihah, as the 5 letter form of Alhamd, as the Secret form of the truth of Allah.

To being True Man within the Creation of God within us, which in maturity is Allah Muhammad within us, is the One within the Three of God within us, is the One within the Triple Flame of God within us, is True Man within Muhammad (Sal.), within Muhammad as  5 letter form of Alhamd, as the One of the Three of God, of the Ruh, the Wisdom, and the Nur, which is the seed of Islam, the seed of God within akhirah or the hereafter within us, like the ripe fruit is revealed as the One of the tree from within the Three of the tree, as the ripe fruit is revealed from within the roots, the trunk, and the branches of the mature tree.

To being God within the Creation of True Man within us, within akhirah or the hereafter within us, which in maturity is the again the Three of God, the Triple Flame of God, within the "Oneness" of God and True Man within us, is again the Nur Muhammad, but this time within God within the Shaikh within us, and in this way, revealing the Oneness of God and True Man within us, which in Truth is God and True Man within us.

For as Bawa teaches us so beautifully in the "Kalimah Song" (4/26/72),

          "In a state of expansion, alif, lam, meem, and the Triple Flame of God that has
          become clear, become the Ruh, the Wisdom, and the Nur, in a most mysterious
          form of Grace.  That form of Grace becoming Wisdom, Wisdom becoming the
          Nur, and the Nur will become God."

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

And as Bawa teaches us in the book, "Questions of Life - Answers of Wisdom", and as the quote of the month, for the month of May, in the 1998 version of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship Calendar,

          "Do not look at the world and run behind it.  Do not look at a book and run the
          way it tells you to.  Instead, try looking at yourself, and run in that direction.  But
          before you run, try to understand your senses.  Do not run after happiness and
          comfort.  Instead, understand what sorrow is and what joy is and walk warily."

          "Do not believe that everything is tasty.  Before you eat you must know that
          some things are wrong, and some things are bad for you.  In everything you must
          know the right and the wrong."

          "Do not marvel at the things you see in the world.  The world is only a small
          dot, a small point.  Instead, look at yourself, understand yourself, and marvel at
          what you see there."

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

9.  The "Love Song" of the World of Illusion - is "Nothing from nothing is nothing,
          you have to be something to be one with me"
 
MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Next, there is an old song that they have been playing recently on the television, as part of a commercial, and it goes something like this,

          "Nothing from nothing is nothing, you have to be something to be one with me."

This is like the "love song" of the world of illusion, calling us into existence from non-existence, from being One with the "Nothing", the "No-thing" that is God, calling us to become One with the world of illusion, because only if we are "something" or "someone" as "separate from" someone else, as "separate from" everyone else, can we be one with the world of illusion.

Because only by us living as one with the life of "separation and differences" that has grown within us, as one with "us" as "separate from" God, can we be one with the
world of darkness "inside" of us, and with the world of illusion that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, and one with all of our brothers and sisters who have also become one with the world of darkness within them, that is also seen in their ignorance as existing "outside" of them.

For as Bawa teaches us,

          "If you do not have the things of the world, the world will not have you."

My dearest loving sister Rumi, may we both think about this wisdom point a little, and
join with our wisdom, and with the truth of God within us, may we join with our Shaikh within us and with God within Him, to put down all of the things of the world that have appeared within us, that are now reflected in our ignorance "outside"  of us, and that we have now pick up in our ignorance as defining us.

The things of the world inside of us that now define us "outside" of us, that now define us as "separate from" God, as "separate from" each other, and as "separate from" the Creation of God within us, that now define for us "who we are", and "where we are", and "what is happening" in our life, all of which is a lie that will only lead us to hell, to an eternal life of "separation from" God . 

It is very, very important, because everything born within the world within us, and
everything that in our ignorance is reflected "outside" of us must die, everything that has appeared or manifested within us or "outside" of us must die, that is true prayer.

For as Bawa teaches us in the book, "Dhikr: The Remembrance of God", and in the
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship Calendar for this year and month, for November, 2002, 

          "Just as everything born in the world must die, just as everything that has
          appeared in the world must disappear, (so too), if One is truly in prayer, (then)
          everything that has manifested within him must die in that prayer.  (Only) that is
          true prayer."

          "(In this way), when One (truly) prays to God, when One (truly) worships God,
          (then) everything that has appeared within him must die." 

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

10.  Who Is Larger, Us or The World? - because our answer to that question will
          determine the state of our eternal life, giving us either an eternal life as "One
          with" God, or an eternal life as "separate from" God

My dearest loving sister Rumi, my love your very, very much.  Lets take a look at
something we shared at the beginning of our chat and your initial reaction to it, and see what Bawa can teach about it. 

This child said to you,

          "Joining with Bawa to write Spiritual Letter 33, 'To Truly See All People As Our
          Brothers Is Islam', has been a great blessing in my life, and is starting to answer
          some very important questions for this child, like,

                    "How we change the world we are living in is by doing nothing correctly".

And your initial reaction was,

          "We must read Spiritual Letter 33 in order to understand this wisdom point. At
          this point my reaction is,

                    'We can't even change ourselves, let alone the world we are living in?'"

Your initial reaction really hit of cord deep within me, and upon handing it to Bawa within me, opened up a wonderful new understanding of the path that we are all walking with Bawa, and the obstacles that must be overcome on that path.  Lets take a brief look at what came into my heart from Bawa.

On page 9, at the very beginning of Chapter 2, "The Shepherd and the Tree", in the book, "A Mystical Journey", Bawa teaches us the following,

          "I give you my love, my grandchildren, my sons and daughters, my brothers and
          sisters.  May God help you.  Every single part of your body needs God's help -
          your heart, your eyes and hands, every muscle, your blood and flesh and bones.
          Your need His grace, His light, and His help in your every quality and action."

          "My Children, come with Me.  I have walked along this path before.  On this
          journey there are 10 tests for cutting illusion, or maya, and for severing the
          attachments to the world.  The 9th test, which you must now pass, concerns the
          world and the nature of the world.  My Shaikh, the light form called the Nur
          Muhammad, explained this test to me long ago.  Now it is time to show you what
          He showed Me."

My dearest loving sister Rumi, to join with our Shaikh and pass this 9th test, we must
both clearly understand what is implied in the statement that you made, and realize without the slightest doubt, that we can never move forward in our life as long as we continue to think and believe in this way.  Lets take a closer look at what you said.

          "'We can't even change ourselves, let alone the world we are living in?"

What is implied in this statement is that "we are living within the world", and that "the world is a very big thing", and that relative to the world, that "we are a very small thing", and that, "to change the world", which is a very big thing, "would require something beyond us", and certainly not by us, since "we cannot even change ourselves", which is much less a thing to change than the world. 

Do you agree?  Do your agree that this is the implied thinking and believing in the above statement?

Please don't be upset with this analysis of what you shared, my dearest loving sister Rumi, that is the purpose of our sharing at the feet of our Father, to get Him, to even trick Him to intervene in our life of karma, in our life of fate, in our destiny, in our life of "separation and differences", so, as Bawa teaches us,

          "Our wisdom can reason over our fate".

And as a result, our life can become successful, our life can become an eternal life of "Oneness with" God and True Man within us, instead of a failure, allowing our fate to win over our wisdom, allowing our fate, our temporary life of "separation from" God to lead us to the Angel of death, and to an eternal life of "separation from" God. 

For without this type of sharing, of leaning to sit with our brothers and sisters at the feet of our Shaikh, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), we will most certain be led by our karma, by our fate, by our destiny, by our life of arrogance, karma, and illusion, by our temporary life of "separation from" God to the angel of death, to the suffering of the grave, to Qiyamah, the Standing Forth, the Day of Judgment, and eventually to an eternal life of "separation from" God. 

Ok.  Good, back to our analysis.

The problem with this way of thinking and believing, that,

          "We are living within the world, and that the world is bigger than us,"

Is that it is completely wrong, that it masks the truth of our lives, it hides the truth of "who we are", of "where we are", and of "what is happening" in our life, because in truth the world that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us is really but a very small reflection of the huge world of darkness hidden within us.

The huge world of darkness that in our ignorance we have grown "inside" of us by our life of "sin" on the "outside" of us, by our life in the world of illusion "outside" of us, by our life of "separation and differences" that we are living with our brothers and sisters in the world  that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, by keeping our soul, by keeping the life of our soul, by keeping Jesus within us (peace be upon Him)
crucified to the cross of our elemental body, so we can "sin".

In this way, Jesus (peace be upon Him) did not die for our sins, as the Christians of today mistakenly believe, but rather, He continuously dies within each one of us so we can contunue to "sin".

In this way, the truth is that each one of us in our ignorance, as we grow up in the world of illusion and come to be an adult, crucifies our own soul, the life of our soul, crucifies our life of purity, crucifies Jesus within us (peace be upon Him) so we can sin, crucifies the life of our soul to our elemental body with the 5 nails of desire - desire for earth, fire, water, air, and ether - so we can live in the world of illusion.

And in this way, allowing us to live a life of "separation and differences" until we die,
allowing us to live a life of "separation from" God on the "outside" of us with our brother and sisters, so we can "sin".

This is why Bawa told us one day,

          "Stop fighting with your Shaikh for your soul."

For the Shaikh has come for our soul, not for us as "separate from" God, our Shaikh
has come to liberate our soul from the cross of our elemental body, by pulling out the 5 nails of elemental desire with our wisdom, in order to join our soul with our wisdom,
and to join Them (our soul joined with our wisdom) with the Nur, the light of our wisdom, which is the body of our soul, in order to make our life eternal, not to help "us" as "separate from" God to live better, or smarter, or more successfully in the world of illusion.

And if He is successful, if He liberates our soul from its cross within us, joins it with our wisdom, and with the Nur within us, then "we" as "separate from" God will die, our life as "separate from" God will comes to an end, because our life as "separate from" God, our life of "sin", can only exist as long as our soul, as long as the life of our soul, as long as Jesus within us (peace be upon Him) remains crucified on the cross of our elemental body.
 
Such is the dilemma of our current life in the world "outside" of us with our brothers and sisters.  May we both think about this a little.  It is very, very important, my dearest loving sister Rumi.

That is why Bawa told His children to stop fighting with their Shaikh for their soul, to stop trying to stay alive as "separate from" God, and instead, to join in partnership with their Shaikh to again live as "One with" God, as we did before the age of 2 years old, but this time with an understanding of who we already are, this time with an understanding of the "Oneness of God and True Man", so it will never leave us again.

And in this way, to join in partnership with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him, to liberate our soul, to join with our Shaikh within us to bring our life of "separation from" God to an end, to join with our Shaikh within us to win over the "enemy of the soul", to win over the "enemy of the soul" which is each of us trying to live "separate from" God, with our brothers and sisters, in the world that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of uis.

This is why Bawa told us one day,

          "I have not come for you, I have come for your soul, to awaken the wisdom
          surrounding the soul (which is the guardian of the soul), so the wisdom
          surrounding the soul can do battle with the enemy of the soul."

And when this child heard this, I said to Bawa,

          "Bawa, who is the enemy of my soul?"

And Bawa look right at me and said,

          "You are!"

In this way, my dearest loving sister Rumi, we are not in the world, but rather, the world is within us, and the world is not larger than us, but rather, we are larger than the
world, but as long as we continue to think the other way, that we are within the world, and the world is larger than us, then this way of thinking and believing, that is implied in your initial reaction to the wisdom point that was shared, for example, when you said,

          "'We can't even change ourselves, let alone the world we are living in?"

Becomes the main thing blocking us from progressing on the path, because we are unable to truly join with our Shaikh to liberate our soul, by doing battle with and winning over the "enemy of the soul", which is "us" thinking and believing in this way, which is "us" living a life of "separation and differences" with our brothers and sisters in the world that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us. 

May we both make the effort to join with our Shaikh and stop fighting with Him for our soul, for our life of "separation and differences", for our  life of "sin", and let our wisdom pull out the 5 elemental nails crucifying Jesus within us (peace be upon Him), allowing
Jesus within us (peace be upon Him) to climb off of His cross within us, to join with our wisdom, and with the light of our wisdom, making our life an eternal life of "Oneness with" God within our wisdom, and in this way, allowing each of us to escape the suffering of the grave, Qiyamah, the Standing Forth, the Day of Judgment, and an eternal life of "separation from" God, that otherwise is most certainly our fate, our destiny, and our karma.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

My love you, my dearest loving sister Rumi.  You are a very, very good Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). 

Thank you for joining with your brother at the feet of our Shaikh, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be  pleased with Him), to get Him, to even trick Him, to intervene in our life of karma, in our life of fate, in our destiny, in our life of "separation and differences", to get Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him) to,

          "Reason over our fate".

11.  Selecting Either The Elevator Up or Down Button - that is the only real choice
          that we have when riding an elevator, nothing else that we do in the elevator has
          any effect on the direction the elevator takes us, as the only real choice that we
          have when living our life is selecting to live either as "One writh" God or as
          "separate from" God, nothing else that we do in our temporary life has any effect
          on the direction that we take in our temporary life in the world, either to an eternal
          life as "One with" God, or to an eternal life as "separate from" God

For example, earlier in this sharing, when this child suggested that you should ask Bawa within you whether you should continue to share with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen or go watch TV, as part of your response you said,

          "Our choice was really between Friday evening silent Dhikr and watching TV".

When we handed what you said to Bawa within this child, Bawa gave the following response,

          "It is never a choice between you as "separate from" God doing two different
          things, like doing Silent Dhikr or watching TV, because either one is exactly the
          same, it is something that you as "separate from" God are doing, and neither act
          will have any effect on moving your life forward, on destroying your karma, of
          liberating your soul from the cross of your elemental body."

          "The only real choice in your life is between you living as "separate from" God or
          you living as "One with" God.  There is no other choice, ever."

          "And if you call Me before you do or say anything, if you say My Name before you
          do or say anything, then you have chosen to live as "One with" God within you, to
          live as "One with" God in what you are doing or saying, and it doesn't matter what
          you do or say, because in truth you as "One with" God is doing and saying it, not
          you as "separate from" God, and the responsibility for what is done or said
          belongs to God and to God alone, and as such, you will be automatically pulled
          back into the "Oneness of God and True Man", from which you all have originally
          come, like the rain falling back into the ocean from which it came, again
          becoming the ocean, no longer the rain."

          "But if you don't do this, if you don't call Me, if you don't say My Name before you
          do or say anything, then you have chosen to continue to live as "separate from"
          God within you, to live as "separate from" God in what you are doing or saying,
          and in this case, it also doesn't matter what you do or say, because in truth you
          as "separate from" God is doing and saying it, not you as "One with" God, and
          the responsibility for what is done or said belongs to you and to you alone."

          "And as such, you will be automatically pulled into what originally "separated
          from" God when God as the Nur Muhammad emerged out of the Power of God,
          transforming anathi, or the time of darkness or lack of understanding into the time
          of aathi, the time of light or understanding, and when you die, you will meet the
          Angel of Death, experience the suffering of the grave, and go to Qiyamah (the
          Standing Forth, the Day of Judgment), and finally, and for all of your effort, as
          "separate from" God, be given an eternal life of "separation from" God.  Know this
          now, my dearest loving Children, and act accordingly."

12.  Closing Prayer And Comments - we must all learn to do this "hearts work",
          only then can our life move forward

Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all.  May God help us all. 

Please give my love and salams to all of our brothers and sister.  Please tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in my prayers.  And please share this sharing with them. 

It is very important that we all do this wisdom work, this "hearts" work.  Only then can our life move forward.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).


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